Thursday, February 25, 2010

Why won't the high gloss red paint cover white patches or paint smoothly?

This red is lighter than the origianl red that the kitchen was painted. I do not know what type of finish was on that paint. We bought our paint at Duron (Sherwin Williams). We put two coats on, then primed the entire wall and put two more coats over top (5 coats total). The paint does not look smooth (you can see brush strokes) and has not covered white spots well (patches where nails used to be). Any help on what we can try or what is going wrong?Why won't the high gloss red paint cover white patches or paint smoothly?
The white patches, are they putty or plaster? Were they primmed aswell. Drywall, plaster, putty and other porous surfaces like to suck up the primmer and paint so it is importaint to make sure they have suficient coats of primmer on them.





The brush strokes could be on the paint underneath and are more apparent because of the color you have choosen. it creates more shadows on the lines. What is also important is the drying times and curing times inbetween coats and primer and paint.





I am also wondering if the primer use was tinted? It should have been. If you used a different color or shade of primer than the kitchen you wont turn out with the same shade of red. Also note that if proper sanding was not done after the holes were plug or patched this will show through. I hope that this info helps. What you might have to do is see if there is a really think primmer that can be used to coat the entire surface and that can be sanded smooth where needed. Thus getting rid of lines and patches. Then reprime with a tinted primer and then repaint.





Hope all works out well! Good luck!Why won't the high gloss red paint cover white patches or paint smoothly?
too many layers for one thing. an by the sound of it you put it on too thick or you would have never seen the strokes.





as soon as you found that the paint did not match you should have primed it then. with probably only one coat.





then after dry for 24 hours, 48 if the paint was a gloss, you could have applied your first coat and then after 48 hours your second.
I love red! I painted one wall in my kitchen red and then stopped! I've since heard that red is the worst color to paint with. You need several coats of dark primer, like gray or tinted, and when you paint you still need several coats of the red. All I can suggest is to go over one more time with a roller and see how it turns out.
High gloss paint is always problematic. Why not scale back to a low gloss?
Red is a difficult color to work with. First thing I recommend is to use a roller wherever you can instead of a brush. There are different thicknesses of rollers. The rougher the surface is, the thicker the roller padding should be. You may have to paint two to three times over white so that the white doesn't show through. And red tends to fade over time more than about any color. So you can paint the room, they you use touch up a year or two later and guess what? It doesn't match. And brush strokes normally are a result of brushing the paint too much, especially if the paint is starting to dry. You want a good amount of paint on your brush when you paint with a brush then spread it out so it doesn't run. I only use a brush for the 2-3'; that are right next to what I've taped off for trim painting.





Also, as you paint more layers. You will see imperfections more and more because each layer makes the imperfection slightly bigger. And with high gloss, the gloss will tend to want to show the imperfections very easily when the light hits it. I tend to prefer a satin paint finish. The reason why is that it doesn't give so much gloss that it shines and shows the roughness in the wall real bad when the light hits it. But at the same time, it has enough shine so that when you do have to do a touch-up on the wall, you can't tell where you did the touch up. If you do a touch up with flat paint, the touch up normally can be easily seen.





So far my favorite paint has been American Signature at Lowe's, it's also called Valspar I think. Behr paint at Home Depot is pretty good. And Pittsburgh paint at Menards isn't too bad.





I normally never have to put on more than two coats of paint, normally not even with red. Three coats absolute max. If it takes more than that, you have crappy paint or you are doing something wrong.





If you are talking about covering some of the little pen head size divots, the best way I've found to cover them up is to press the roller a little harder in that area to squeeze out a little more paint out of the roller and try getting that paint to kind of roll into and fill up that divot. Or you can get a paintbrush use the paintbrush to get the paint into the divot, then go back over the area right away with a roller to get rid of the paintbrush marks.
Ok, first of all, red is by far the HARDEST color to paint and get it looking right. Gray primer is the only way to go because painting red over white is next to impossible. So I would start over, buy some gray primer or get them to tint your primer if you still have some. Then, ROLL your paint. DON'T brush it. If you have to cut in around trim etc. then use a good brush and put it on kind of heavy but watch for drips. And ALWAYS with red especially roll into a wet edge. Meaning, cut in around doors and window etc and roll into the wet edge. Don't let anything dry that needs to be painted. When you let it dry, and then paint into the edge it will leave dark spots or light spots. I hope I helped! Good luck!
Brush strokes are caused by painting that spot too much. Apply paint generously, smooth it out with 5 or less strokes, let it dry. Don't brush or roll drying paint after it's been applied for more than 3 to 5 minutes. If you see somewhere you need to smooth out, very light brush it, barely touching the paint....

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