Thursday, February 25, 2010

How do I paint brown gloss satin over white gloss?

I been asking this question to a number of people. I am going to paint some cupboards. that have already been painted in white gloss by a previous owner. It is white gloss and I am going to paint it in an brown gloss satin. Do I have to undercoat it and prime it. Because to be honest I do not know what undercoat is exactly and do I have to sand it. what paint brush to use etc. Is it important to clean them with sugar soap.How do I paint brown gloss satin over white gloss?
Simple. Just get the oil based undercoat mixed in the same colour as the top coat. I would have thought most in the trade does it that way. Everyone that I know do.How do I paint brown gloss satin over white gloss?
I've been a painter for twenty plus years. I have several suggestions:





1. Use Sherwin William's Prep Rite Bonding primer as the first coat (tinted as much as possible towards your final color). This primer bonds better than any I have used over a glossy surface without the need for sanding or scuffing.





or





lightly sand the surface, use a gloss remover or liquid sander to remove the gloss and wipe clean the dust.





2. As much as I prefer Sherwin Williams for all of my products I have found that Benjamin Moore now has a very superior paint that covers in one to two coats at the most when changing interior colors drastically. The product is called ';Aura';. Just google Benjamin Moore and look for Aura. I used the Aura in Red at several local Dairy Queens and I covered over glossy white with one coat of the Red.





A final thought. As you are painting cupboards, I would highly recommend using the preprite bonding primer from Sherwin Williams and topping it off with the Aura paint from Benjamin Moore. Use a very soft brush 2 and 1/2 inch Purdy brand and a 1/8 inch nap roller cover. Apply the primer and paint with smooth strokes and do not over work it. When cleaning the brush and roller cover use warm soapy water. I haven't heard of the sugar trick before. Just warm soapy water. any questions you can email me at prestonle


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Primer is for bare surfaces. There are some specialist primers for unstable or problem surfaces. You do not need primer, but go straight onto undercoat.





Undercoat is like putting a rubber matt between the old hard gloss surface and the new hard gloss or satin finsih you intend to apply. Without it, the hard coats don't really bond and they slip. Undercoat on interiors is softer and acts as a cushion for knocks. When you choose your brown gloss there may be a specified colour undercoat as directed by the manufacturer. If not, I would suggest a dark yellow, but I'm guessing because I can't remember the last time I used brown gloss. One or two coats, not too thick, learn to use a 4inch foam roller and a brush on your cupboards.





There is no gloss satin, as in your question. You will have to choose gloss or satin. Gloss will usually need one coat, Satin two (with one undercoat).





The paint I would buy would be Dulux paint (for wood), oil-based rather than water based and I'd use Dulux Satinwood for a finish. There is no need to rub down between coats except to denib with a little P180 grit paper.





Good luck.
You need to sandpaper all of the woodwork down, then give it one coat of undercoat and two coats of brown gloss/satin.


The rubbing down with the sandpaper and the undercoat gives a ';key'; and a matt body to the woodwork.


This gives a perfect surface to the wood to accept two coats of brown gloss/satin.


A 1'; and a 2'; brush should be sufficient which you would clean with white spirits.
I would rough the surface up with a mild grit sandpaper, just to get the gloss off. I would then prime the cabinet with a good primer like kilz. After that paint with a good quality paint, I recommend Behr.
get some liquid sand paper it well help get the suface ready. light sand with 220 /340 grit paper.

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